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Shady Croupiers

A concerted effort is underway, by the public relations arm of all the local Democrats, to make the notion of an Independent Safety Assessment seem inocuous, and helpful in the matter of the Democrats' obsession with Indian Point. This is just a step or two less malicious than a campaign of outright lies. It is, in fact, a seemingly earnest, but manipulative misuse of an established body of existing PR lies, now referred to as "public concern".

The Democratic officials have not concocted new lies about Indian Point, but they never critically investigated exaggerations served up to them by their staff, and paid fear-creators in the big-charity foundation-funded "movement". The paid PR perpetrators acted at one remove, calling themselves "watchdogs", but in reality sowing mistrust, smearing people of good will, misleading thousands with junkscience misinterpretations, and the staff people of all major Democratic figures worked closely with them, to pull in whatever votes could be gleaned from their impressive set of mailing lists.

The collective set of lies is now misnomered as "public concern". It is not public, and it is not concern. It is the private skewing of facts by professional PR people planted in the green movement by big oil foundations, specifically targeting all things nuclear. I have made an effort to identify and name the main operatives, and they number no more than 50-75 people nationwide. This is the single source of 99% of so-called "public concern". In point of fact the public is apathetic or uncommitted to these mock-issues, as a quick glance at local chatrooms will show. The public cares about taxes, illegal immigration, bad roads, schools, and half a dozen other topics, with Indian Point seldom mentioned.

But..... it is a way for unconnected Democratic rivals to connect with each other, garner bootstrapping momentum against Nancy Pelosi and others within the Democratic ranks, and to begin the 2008 campaign on an aggressive PR note.

Now let me explain what is so ludicrous about an Independent Safety Assessment. It is a duplication of ongoing inspections already underway at Indian Point. In a series of 100 inspections, specifically demanding inspection number 101 simply shows that the requestors are obviously not reading the results of all the other inspections. A further inspection on top of the last 100 inspections can not turn up anything, good or bad, that the other inspections have not looked at. So no new data will come from a special new inspection.

Then why not do it as a reassurance to the public? To that I say: Why not compile and broadcast the results of the existing 100 inspections to reassure the public? To that Democrats will say "But the public does not care about or trust the other 100 inspections".... To which I reply "It was you, who acted as if mistrust was warranted, and who so browbeat the issue that the public ceased to care.... so it might as well be you, the perpetrators, who remedy that".

And..... once the logical fallacy of ignoring 100 inspections, and all their confirmed data, and rolling the public's dice on a single inspection, (with doubtful data) is clearly pointed out...... there still remains the distinct possibility of hidden malice, and hidden malicious agendas, buried within the seemingly inocuous call for one more inspection.

What do I mean?

It just may be, that someone on the staff of the hand picked new inspection team will have been delegated as "Hit Person"..... assigned the task of skewing results, creating a bogus problem so as to close Indian Point, and thus deprive 20 million people of a rightful service on the whim of 4 congresspeople, a dozen staff members, and a single malicious antinuke mole, outside any public deliberative process.

We have learned how Jamie Garelik was planted on the 9-11 commission staff to quash Clinton mistakes along with national archives vandal Sandy Berger , and therefore we know that the capability of hatching a malicious plot to sabotage a public investigation is well within the capabilities of the Democratic party.

Should we risk regional viablility and affordability, along with future prosperity and security on a dice-roll?
A dice roll by croupiers already implicated in past skulduggery?

MUDWRESTLING FOR AMERICA....

A revealing statement was made the other day, by Westchester County exec Andrew Spano, waiting in the icy cold of the Annsville Creek kayak club, for John Hall's press conference. The outdoor location is a popular one for such events about Indian Point, because its domes are beautifully visible from the spot, and can form a backdrop for whatever pol is adding his particular genius to the mix that day. Commenting on the uncomfortable temperature, Andy quipped that they should have held it indoors "and used a picture" instead.

Last week, a local blog claimed that a Papier Mache' Indian Point was obscuring the real Indian Point in the press. linkAndy Spano says they should "Use a picture instead". Was Andy finally on to something?

After years of malicious exaggeration for effect, and microscopic overconcern about ephemeral minutiae at the stalwart old plant, those in opposition to its existence have painted themselves into a corner. Having created a fictional Indian Point to swear at, and toss pebbles at like hajj pilgrims in Mecca, they were finally coming to grips with the fact that as much as they despised the false Indian Point, their constituents needed the real Indian Point, and needed it desperately. As the icy 17 degree winds whipped in off the Hudson like a blast of reality, Spano was chilled into the realization that he'd rather be indoors, where Indian Point could keep him warm, shaking his fist at a picture, than experiencing reality. Quite an admission, Mr. County Executive! Perhaps your singlemost instant of pure insight!

Executives and Congresspeople, along with Senators, and even Presidents, are often lied to. Seeking causes to champion, they stand there stymied in their white knight outfits, clueless, until a staffer (or Jack Abramoff) hands them a briefing paper, containing news of whatever "evil" they are to vanquish today. If the briefing paper contains nonsense, the county, the congressional district, or the entire country can be led down the shining path to destruction, and I think we are all very familiar with THAT. I've not decided just yet, that our senatorial/congressional system is broken beyond repair, but hearing of Nancy Pelosi's new 757 commuting jet, and John Hall's rehash of a rejected Maurice Hinchey bill proposing we officially return to an obsolete, long superseded, archaic and unrevealing "Independent Safety Assessment" to tell us whether the fictional Indian Point is as bad as they themselves have been saying, I am being edged closer and closer to a final decision that unrealistic camera-seeking faux leadership is leaving us all in the lurch, screwing the common man royally, for the sake of pictures and celebrity pride.

Because their own staff cherry picked lurid untruths about Indian Point, to provide them a fictional electoral theme, now they band together proposing a fictional solution to their self-induced fictional problems, an ISA. Don't they understand that the only time an ISA was ever held, in 1996, the NRC leveraged the concept into an entire new way of doing business, one that NRC now follows daily, the ROP- or Reactor Oversight Process. The ISA itself was hurriedly and somewhat badly done, serving as a kind of sketch pad for NRC to write a new policy on. After 1996, they amplified those notes, wrote that new policy, and have perfected it daily ever since. Asking NRC to return to the sketch pad now, is like asking the NASA moonshot engineers to return to some scribbled hand calcs on a tablecloth, and ignore the carefully programmed computer guidance system that eventually was crafted from those scribbles.

But Hall, Spano, Hinchey, Lowey et al have a paper problem to fix, and a paper solution to do it with! So we get press releases, meetings on the frozen shore, planted articles about "momentum", and absolutely no buy-in by the public. What gives? It seems John Q realizes our power brokers are having a private little tempest in an exclusive Democratic teapot, and that it won't raise the temperature above 17 degrees, or intercept the wind that Andy so despised. The one thing it might do, if we insist on humoring these camera hounds, is take away the power the region requires, so that Andy can go indoors, and warm his hands up, and shake his fist at that picture, for all to see on channel 12!

The oh-so-bracing paper momentum that Greg Clary wrote about 5 days ago is spent now, lasting only about as long as paper momentum ever does, as we all sit indoors, grateful for our heat, our lighting, our news , entertainment and our realworld work, all brought to us courtesy of the real Indian Point, as Andy 'n' Hall mudwrestle with that slippery faux Indian Point all over again, knowing that another election is coming soon, to your area...

CONGRESSPEOPLE DUPED BY THEIR OWN STAFF...

Interested readers can link to: THE NRC REJECTION STATEMENT


To see why there is no "momentum" for a so-called "Independent Safety Assessment" at Indian Point power plant. The very idea of an ISA is obsolete, having been replaced in 1997 with NRC's much improved ROP-(reactor oversight process.) Do the authors of this request realize that their anti-nuclear biased staff has handed them a major embarrassment in having them ask for a decades-outdated event to re-happen in 2007? Probably not. Their "advocacy" is mainly fly-by-wire, mediated by staff, and handed up to the unconcerned elected officials as their latest sop to a rapidly aging, (and dwindling) "movement."

White Nuclear Snowflake has been trying to alert the poor duped congresspeople, but I bet their staff doesn't hand them the latest WNS post every day, do they?

Asking for an ISA in 2007 is like asking for an exorcism, a land grant from the King of Spain, an application of leeches for gout, or a cranial trepanning for a headache. Very, very out of date. Humiliating that they would even mention it.
Read WNS back posts, should you want to learn more.

In my opinion, commissioner Klein was very courteous in not highlighting their mistake.
He's a more kindly type than I am, I guess.

USELESS MEDIA FEEDING FRENZY SOUGHT ?

Do we really need another O.J. Simpson trial?


Suppose I was an honest lawmaker (or a citizen), with concerns about the accuracy, the honesty, or the stringency of previous NRC inspections at Indian Point? Would I be out in the cold, stonewalled by some NRC "omerta" system?

Would I have no help , in my quest to understand the truth? Would there be no way to judge whether NRC performed as promised, or slacked off, allowing unseen dangers into our world? Would I be faced with complacent NRC inspectors, not aware of the needed depth, completeness, or stringency of NRC's relations with Indian Point ? Would I have nowhere to turn? Nowhere but writing new targeted one-of-a-kind legislation? Oddball, biased legislation amounting to a bill of attainder against a legally licensed functioning business? (a targeted bill in the National Socialist mold, un-American to the Nth degree, a partisan vendetta masked as "law"?)

Some might say yes. But if there were no alternative, it might be necessary, right?

What if there were an existing group, doing that job already? An official group unknown, or overlooked by the freshman lawmaker? Well, yes, actually, there always has been. You see, NRC has an "Internal Affairs" department, just like any police force, and it's called the ACRS.

Woops!

Link to : http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/nuregs/brochures/br0286/br0286.pdf "ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON REACTOR SAFEGUARDS"

This committee, a high level expert committee completely separate from the day-to-day routine of NRC inspections, exists under law to provide, amazingly enough, exactly the function John Hall and Chris Shays claim to be implementing with their punitive new bill-of-attainder, and does it long term, as a devil's advocate within NRC, to ensure the NRC process is sound, that its implementation is strict, and that its basis is purely scientific (not political). It's mission for 2005-2008 can be found at the link given above, and I'm happy to say that Dr. Bill Shack has just become its chairman, after a 25+ year career in aging degradation analysis, (allow me to quote): "His work has included measurement and modeling of residual stresses, fracture mechanics analyses of stress corrosion crack growth, assessment of leak-before-break behavior in piping systems, and fatigue of reactor materials. He was appointed to the ACRS in 1993." If anybody in the world can tell us that Indian Point is too old, and gonna blow, it ought to be Dr. Bill Shack, right?

But Does Dr. Bill think it's his mission to keep NRC honest on this ?...(I quote yet again): "The ACRS advises the Commission independently from the NRC staff on the safety and safeguards aspects of nuclear facilities and the adequacy of safety inspections. ACRS reviews and advises the Commission with regard to safety issues, the adequacy of proposed reactor safety standards, technical issues related to the licensing of plant designs, and other matters referred to it by the Commission. On its own initiative, may conduct reviews of specific safety-related items. Submits an annual report to the Commission commenting on NRC Safety Research Programs." Well, geeze, Louise, it seems that Dr. Bill and his oversight committee, are ALREADY DOING every single thing Shays, Hall, and the other newbies want to tell the public is not being done!!! Amazing!!!

Maybe Hall, had he known anything about the NRC, could have simply written Dr Shack a congressional request to check into the inspections done at Indian Point. Maybe he could have called him up. or visited his office. What could POSSIBLY ever be a motive for the "Dance with Me" author to ignore Dr. Bill Shack, and ACRS, and "Go Public" with a new vendetta bill, to pretend ACRS never existed??

Alas, dear readers, I have to let YOU decide that. I cannot read Chris Shays' mind, or John Hall's either. Could press coverage have played a part? Could one sided (anti-nuclear) staff research have blinded the honorable Congressmembers to what already was routinely tackling these problems?

Could a trumped up adversarial stance, used to garner anti-nuke votes have crippled the perpetrators, so that they ignored, bypassed, and suppressed information about an existing non-confrontational way to protect the public, or pretended it does not exist, and went on their own merry inexpert way to re-invent the wheel, with many many glorious sound bites, and headlines, so they can seem like heroes on the news, while really, all they were doing was ignoring the highly qualified people (Dr. Bill Shack) who were actually doing the job, without consulting newly elected ex-musicians who needed to look good to their fringe anarchist support base?

Or maybe there's some other explanation?
Well,,,, if there is.... We're waiting!

And tell me this: Does a one time only ISA, with non-expert members in it, stand a better chance of understanding the reality in 3 weeks, or does Dr Bill Shack's permanent expert office , with his 30 years of expertise, and their 30 years of expertise, and a mandate to look into the matter in an ongoing manner, with no cutoff point , stand a better chance of finding the truth, without an O.J. Simpson trial type media feeding frenzy clouding all the issues?

How did that O.J. Simpson trial turn out, anyway?
Think that it uncovered the truth?

Could it be that a "new O.J. Simpson trial" effect is exactly what Hall , Shays & the others are after?

PSST: REP HALL: LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING !!

PSST: REP HALL: LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING !!

NRC just finished a CDBI vertical slice inspection of Indian Point on Thursday of this week. What that means, is NRC arrived, and demanded to see several systems, from the topmost FSAR description, all the way down through the most lowly switch, screw, nut and bolt, in excruciating detail, examining whether the safety functionality promised to the public in the FSAR, was indeed implemented by every single component in the system, 100% top to bottom, no substitutions, no "forgotten details" , no excuses, or "we were going to fix that up later" put-offs.

(The FSAR, or Final Safety Analysis Report, is part of a nuke plant's license. In it the operator explains just what he intends to do, in every single particular way, to keep the public safe. It is a ten volume set of very extensive and detailed promises. It took me about three months to read, and understand it...... any promise made, but not kept, means NRC can shut you down, no questions asked, no appeals, no supreme court to bail you out).

This vertical slice method was one third of the Independent Safety Assessment conducted by NRC on Maine Yankee plant in 1996 (which they just barely passed with a D-minus grade).
So.... one-third of the vaunted "Indian Point Independent Safety Assessment" was just completed on Thursday, and can either be believed, and used by John Hall, Maurice Hinchey, et al. to decide what they think about Indian Point, OR-- they can ignore it, get a lot more press time, and pass a law to ask NRC to do it again in 6 months.

The other parts of the Maine Yankee ISA, general operational compliance, and computer code compliance, have also been routinely tested at Indian Point, and if John Hall's research arm is a bit weak, or one-sided, all the Honorable Rep. needs to do , is post online that he would like me to point him to the existing test results, and I'll be happy to.

But he won't.

Why?

He is preaching to his old choir.
The skeptical-towards-government, but gullible-towards-urban-myths Jeff Rense anti-nuke crowd, all full of themselves with exaggerated factoid on exaggerated mythoid, proton-rays-from-your-lightbulb Helen Caldicott generation.
He needs to impress them with his strength, sternness, independence, and lack of co-optation by what they tell themselves is a corrupt electrical industry watched by a corrupt NRC. I have personally never ever seen a single hint of corruption in the NRC, who scare the living bejabers out of me with their stern professional demeanor, accurate penetrating questions, and willingness to follow the evidence where ever it goes, far beyond my usual comfort level. Entergy, the operator, is falling all over itself lately to be pro-people, pro-safety, pro-environment, and pro just about everything the enviro-anarchists used to claim as their own territory, even to the point where blogs have been seen, accusing Entergy of "stealing the green movement". These claims are 100% true. Entergy, with its expertise, its billion dollar financial clout, and its proactive longterm vision, has positioned itself to carry on the torch, just as Dr Caldicott & her "Anti" generation fall into paranoid babbling, and senile repetition, AND WHO BETTER TO DO IT?

Can Robert F. Kennedy jr light your houses for you? Short answer = NO.
Can 100,000 non-expert bloggers save the Hudson? Maybe--- given time (and Entergy finances).
Can Entergy act to save the Hudson? YOU BETCHA!
Has Entergy acted to save the Hudson? YEP, IN SPADES.
Question: If Entergy is not fooling, and really means it...WHY REJECT THE MOST POWERFUL AVATAR THE MOVEMENT HAS EVER HAD?
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( This quiet time is intentionally injected, to allow contemplation of the preceding sentence.)
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Which prompts my next proposition.
Go ahead. Chase Entergy away. Take your Hudson, with a closed, useless Indian Point STILL THERE, and ask Hall, Hinchey , Spano, and Cuomo-the-lesser to craft your 21st century lifescape for you.


Sound scary?
I'm getting "lousy future coming" goose bumps , even as I write!


And just in case I'm "spinning you up".... contemplate this: Name for me, a single instance of Hall, Hinchey, Spano, Lowey or Cuomo junior proposing a bond issue FOR A NEW POWER PLANT?

But what the hell, Honda makes a great gasoline powered generator for about $3000. Of course, your house power panel will have to be rewired (about $6000), and YOU provide the gasoline, the testing, the maintenance, etc., etc.

SO WHAT IS REALITY HERE ??

Well, my lights, and my oil burner are on right now!
and I haven't done a thing! ....(It's 17 degrees outside)

Scamming Off the Work of Others

Recognize the Song?
(Let me tell you why you do)

It astounds me how blithely a politician can ignore other peoples' efforts, and successes, and then attach their work to his own resume', as if they had never existed. John Hall, ignoring years of stringent NRC inspections of Indian Point, now regales his followers (and the news media) with what, pray tell? He proposes that NRC must inspect Indian Point, saying it is "crucial". Come again honorable congressperson?

Has not NRC been inspecting the self-same Indian Point for 35 years, telling you & me that it was safe enough? What part of "Safe Enough" is it that you misunderstand? The American national repository of safety expertise in the nuclear field--the NRC , repeatedly gave Indian Point suggestions on how to clean up their act, even shutting them down for 2 years in the 1990's to learn how to run safely. Indian Point complied, and NRC told them "OK , you are once again safe enough".

This is an ongoing work, with the needs of the American public in mind, making nuclear plants safer, chiding them, fining them, learning all their secrets, and John Hall had nothing to do with it. NRC is quite capable of finding out just what is right, or wrong about Indian Point, minus any piggy-back grandstanding by ex rock musicians with an old anti-nuke concert axe to grind.

Tell us, John, just how will your bill for one additional inspection change the ongoing process, 35 years on, that has been made up of several hundred inspections to date? Will your bill give new eyes to the NRC inspectors? New hands? New science, new intelligence? Have they not had their intelligence, their science, and their dedication all along? What an insult your bill is, to all the expert people of good will who have been actually doing the work that you now propose, as if new, as if every single victory they crafted in their careers, is nothing but a PR opportunity, for a newbie congressperson, only because the one time your name is on it, somehow this one last time, its gonna be the big one, the right one, the crucial one, the indispensable one, the one that America demands or else?

Maybe to journalists this is true. NRC just doing the real work, week after week, for decades, is not news. Indian Point, making our lives comfortable and safe, month after month, for decades, seems to be no story at all. But somehow, when 3 Democrats meet at a frozen kayak club, and say "We will force NRC to inspect Indian Point", somehow, this rises to the level of a mall shooting, or a celebrity divorce, and now all of us are told how "crucial" the activity is.

Well, yes. It is crucial. So crucial in fact, that NRC has dedicated itself to it for 30 years, and will continue doing it long after Mr. Hall returns to songwriting.

But this week, all that work is not theirs. Their part in it doesn't count, can't be believed, and is no news. This week all that work is suddenly John Hall's claim to fame. They say that 95% of new songs are somebody else's song, rewritten a little, and offererd up as new work. I say Mr. Hall is just lip-synching NRC's tune, and calling it "Dance With Me". It's not Hall's song, It's not Hall's life's work, it's NRC's work, and he has simply plagiarized it, and added his own sour notes, I might add.

Meanwhile kayaks or no kayaks, over at NRC, the long slow original song plays on.... ensuring that we are all safe, that Entergy toes the line, and that we have the electricity we need , also. That kind of harmony, blending reality, public safety, and public needs, is perhaps too sophisticated a symphony for Hall to comprehend. Perhaps novice music student Hall should book a few lessons with the concertmasters--- NRC.

Or perhaps a dozen anti-nuke Dr Jabberwockies would be best to do the job, misunderstanding 100% of what they see, full of hate and paranoia, deciding just how much electricity you and I , and our children may utilize, for the next 30 years? Perhaps we could all just camp out together, until 2040?

HALL HARRASSES ENTERGY, (provides no electricity, though)

Who said there would be lifeboats?

The 20-odd million people living in the soon-to-be-unaffordable Hudson Valley region need more than empty stunts, cooked up by devious and overanxious "activist advocates'" (paid press agents), in the pay of big charity, big oil, and antinuclear lobbyist foundations, and in turn, foisted on clueless Democratic electees as panaceas, without understanding, without any need, and in the end, without any possible viable result.

It seems that the paid antinuke lobby has settled on the "Independent Safety Assessment" as the next in a line of ostensibly serious proposals that all end up useless exercises in partisan attack futility. It is one thing to oppose policy from the sidelines, but it is quite another to be elected, and have the responsibility of making livable lives for your constituents, outside of any one-sided expectations on the part of the far right, the far left, or the far anti-nuclear fringe.

Just as bungled electric service negotiations are turning into major permanent rate hikes and tax hikes for the unfortunates living in Rockland county, are we to stand by mesmerized, while the same electoral stupidity begins to destroy infrastructure on the east shore, in attacking Indian Point power plant for no demonstrable reason, except that certain fringe political groups voted a "no nukes" line?

The no-nukes cadre was but a small minority in a fairly close majority voting Sue Kelly into retirement in favor of John Hall, and Hall made much of declaring he was "everyone's congressman"---- so now we demand to hear exactly what cause there is to begin to harrass Indian Point, and its mentor, Entergy, aside from promises perhaps rashly made at fuzzy-logic no-nukes concerts over twenty years, by a man who does not understand the area's big cities, the inner suburbs, the local job markets, the local near-suburban housing crunch, the need for blue collar work, and the urgency of the viable absorption of unknown tens of thousands of new arrivals, who are here for the long haul, and who cannot survive integration into American life as penniless marginalized peons, prevented from participation by ill-thought-out infrastructure-burning rampages, hatched in the name of 1980's rock'n'roll concert talk.

In the only other "Independent Safety Assessment" ever held, (Maine Yankee 1996) there seemed to be a glaring proximate cause---a smoking gun--- in an employee allegation of criminal wrongdoing. Without that allegation, which also implicated the NRC, no ISA ever would have happened a decade ago. Where is today's smoking gun? Where is the specific wrongdoing. It is much more than claiming Indian Point could be "Guilty until proven innocent", ..... it is a case in which our freshman congressrocker cannot even say WHAT Indian Point might be guilty of!

In the Maine case, in 1996, even the smoking gun claims were later found to be not true--- it just so happened that Maine Yankee was decrepit, understaffed, lax in almost every way, ignored by its corporate owners, and so it was put to a just and deserving death. And in the irony of ironies, the savior corporation called upon to send knowledgeable experts to Maine to complete the burial arrangements, was you guessed it--ENTERGY!! Entergy uncovered a host of FURTHER bad stuff at Maine Yankee, and correctly advised them to stay closed, and give up their license (which they eventually did).

At least in part from the glaring lessons learned in doing away with Maine Yankee, Entergy entered New York in 2000 with a healthy skepticism toward Indian Point, and began a long 7 year improvement plan, one still being followed today. Almost every area concentrated on by Entergy at Indian Point harks back at least in part to some laxity found at Maine Yankee, and therefore has been specifically targeted now for at least 7 years of ISA remediation at the New York plants, whether they needed it or not.

All this info is available to Hall, and tells him not only could nothing bad be found by an Indian Point ISA, but that it is at root a deception of the public, to act as if an ISA could do the public any good . It cannot. But it can help Hall, and a few other complicit cross-burners, because professionally organized antinuke fakery contributed at least some votes to all of them.

Bread & Circuses is, I'm afraid not enough here. What we need, all us 20 million forgotten souls (all of us who didn't meet at the concerts)-- what we need, is a concrete plan to build energy centers. Not study centers, actual viable electricity-producing power plants, to replace Indian Point's 2000+ megawatts, get them built, set up, and pumping on the grid--so that we can live here---- and I will be the first one to say , at that point, to Indian Point :....."Goodnight old gal, thanks for a fine half-century"

If nobody builds those plants, every single swipe at Indian Point , is a hatchet swipe on at least 15 million of us being able to afford to live here. Mark my words. Its smoke and mirrors. Its bread & circuses. It's screw-your brother for a soundbite, but it is NOT responsible leadership.

It's like blowing up the Titanic first, so it won't hit an iceberg, and,
once in the icy water saying: "Lifeboats?"
"Who said there would be lifeboats?"